out there can run in the low 11's. I know that it does take alot of driver skill especially if your driving a M/T. It's not as easy as you may think. That is why i have always enjoyed having a auto for the track. There are alot of variables that take place at the track. I sent info to SCC on Cheetah a long time ago but i think they were mad because of the 1st article getting done by Turbo Mag. Turbo was a mistake on my part because they were terrible to work with and never sent my photograhpy back despite a letter from my attorney. Go figure. See Ya, Tim Liess Cheetah